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Regarding the origin of Ashkenazi admixture, the analyses suggest that "the first major wave of assimilation probably took place in Mediterranean Europe, most likely in Southern Europe, with substantial further assimilation of minor founders in west/central Europe."[64] According to Richards, who acknowledged past research showing that Ashkenazi Jews' paternal origins are largely from the Middle East, the most likely explanation is that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Middle Eastern men who moved to Europe and married local women whom they converted to Judaism. The authors found "less evidence for assimilation in Eastern Europe, and almost none for a source in the North Caucasus/Chuvashia, as would be predicted by the Khazar hypothesis."[64]
David B. Goldstein, the Duke University geneticist who first found similarities between the founding mothers of Ashkenazi Jewry and European populations, said that, although Richards' analysis was well-done and 'could be right,'[69] the estimate that 80% of Ashkenazi Jewish Mt-DNA is European was not statistically justified given the random rise and fall of mitochondrial DNA lineages. Geneticist Antonio Torroni of the University of Pavia found the conclusions very convincing, adding that recent studies of cell nucleus DNA also show "a very close similarity between Ashkenazi Jews and Italians".[64][9][66] Diaspora communities were established in Rome and in Southern Europe centuries before the fall of the Second Temple in 70 CE.[66]
In July 2010, Bray et al., using SNP microarray techniques and linkage analysis,[97] found that Ashkenazi Jews clustered between Middle Eastern and European populations but found a closer relationship between the Ashkenazim and several European populations (Tuscans, Italians, and French) than between the Ashkenazi Jews and Middle Eastern populations and that European admixture "is considerably higher than previous estimates by studies that used the Y chromosome."
it is possible that the true Jewish ancestors were genetically closer to Southern Europeans than to Druze and Palestinian Arabs. They predicted that using the non-Ashkenazi Jewish Diaspora populations as reference for a world Jewry ancestor genome would "underestimate the level of admixture" but that "however, using the Jewish Diaspora populations as the reference Jewish ancestor will naturally underestimate the true level of admixture, as the modern Jewish Diaspora has also undergone admixture since their dispersion.[98][97]
A 2010 study by Zoossmann-Diskin concluded that based upon the analysis of X chromosome and seventeen autosomal markers, Eastern European Jewish populations and Jewish populations from Iran, Iraq and Yemen, do not have the same genetic origins. In particular, concerning Eastern European Jews, he concluded that the evidence points to a dominant amount of southern European, and specifically Italian, ancestry, which he attributed to the conversions to Judaism in ancient Rome which are also supported by historical evidence. Concerning the similarity between Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews, he stated that the reasons are uncertain but that it is likely to be caused by Sephardic Jews having "Mediterranean basin" ancestry also like the Ashkenazi Jews.[99]
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In 2013 Martin B. Richards stated that presently available genetic studies shows that 50-80 percent of Ashkenazi Y chromosome DNA could be traced to the Near East, while his own study at the University of Huddersfield found that 80 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA could be traced to Europe, but with virtually no lineages from the North Caucasus. This implied a trend of European women marrying Near Eastern men, but provided no evidence to support the Khazar hypothesis.[85] The claim that Ashkenazis as a whole take their origin from Khazars has been widely criticized as there is no direct evidence to support it.[86][87] Using four Jewish groups, one being Ashkenazi, Kopelman et al found no evidence for the Khazar theory.[88]
While the consensus in genetic research is that the world's Jewish populations (including the Ashkenazim) share substantial genetic ancestry derived from a common Ancient Middle Eastern founder population, and that Ashkenazi Jews have no genetic ancestry attributable to Khazars,[8]
According to a 2010 study by Doron Behar et al., Ashkenazi Jews form a "tight cluster" overlying non-Jewish samples from the Levant with Sephardic, Middle Eastern and North African Jewish populations and Samaritans, results being ”consistent with an historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelite residents of the Levant”.[90] In 2013 Behar et al. published a genetic study that came up with the conclusion that there isn't genetic evidence for the Khazar origin of Ashkenazi Jews, and instead Ashkenazi Jews are genetically closest to other Jewish groups and non-Jewish Middle Eastern and European populations.[8]
Nem kazárok, hanem kaukázusi népek (örmények, grúzok).
Nagyon sok askenázi celebet ismerünk, ezek közül egyik sem hasonlít olaszokra vagy más levantei népekre...
"A fele. A fele meg északi, lévén német ősű."
Szerintem antiszemita vagy , és így közelítesz meg egy tudományos kérdést. Az ilyen erős érzelmi elfogultság csak wishful thinkinghez vezethet, azaz tévedésekhez.
De a németeket is alapból utálod, ami egyetlen régióban létezik Magyarországon: az idegen türk-identitású neo-kun kisebbség között népszerű/létezik kizárólag a németellenesség a Kunságban.
Az az érdekes, hogy az orientálok és szefárdok "szokványos" zsidóknak néznek ki, az askenázik meg teljesen másképp... már ebből is látható, hogy nem lehetnek közös ill. hasonló rokon őseik.
Mint említettem, rengeteg igazoltan askenázi zsidó amerikai celebet ismerek, akik inkább hasonlítanak kaukázusiakra, mint szokványos zsidókra.
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